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docs(README.md): note that Flow's Class<T> works with type parameter but TS typeof T doesn't #62

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@jedwards1211 jedwards1211 changed the title note that Flow's Class<T> works with type parameter but TS typeof T d… docs(README.md): note that Flow's Class<T> works with type parameter but TS typeof T doesn't Nov 18, 2019
This unfortunately doesn't work with type parameters:
```ts
// error: 'T' only refers to a type, but is being used as a value here.(2693)
function newInstance<T>(c: typeof T) {
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But you can:

declare function newInstance<T>(c: new (..._: any) => T): T;

var x = newInstance(class X { y = 1; });
x.y = 2

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Okay, I could include that, but I bet it has some limitations like not having type information about the static members of the class, right? I'm 95% sure Class<T> in Flow includes the static member types

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Well, It's not clear how you want to use it. Flow has some limitations too, it's not like that in all scenarios you just get the statics part with this annotation. It's still a generic, (but the last Flow version I've used is 0.85). But, TS is anyway not the best in inference of static properties and even when it's suppose to have the information.

declare class Hi {
    static sss(): number;
    iii(): string;
}

var h = new Hi();

h.constructor.sss();
//            ^^^ <- Error in TS - Works in Flow

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This case works in Flow at least:

declare class Hi {
    static sss(): number;
    iii(): string;
}

function foo<T: Hi>(cls: Class<T>) {
	cls.sss() // no error
        cls.aaa() // Cannot call `cls.aaa` because property `aaa` is missing in statics of `Hi`
}

I'm just saying if we include a note about new (..._: any) => T types, we should mention that it definitely doesn't capture static member types, but that Class<T> can.

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In the moment you add : in the generics it's become pointless. It's not a "real life usage". Because I would probably write it as:

declare class Hi {
    static sss(): number;
    iii(): string;
}


function foo(cls: typeof Hi) {
    cls.sss() // no error
    cls.aaa() // Cannot call `cls.aaa` because property `aaa` is missing in statics of `Hi`
}

I think that this demo is quite pointless. You better right about the fact that TS is really weak about static fields and you cannot get them through constructor, aka:

const h = new Hi();
h.constructor.sss(); // <- Error, doesn't know `sss` exists

But Class<T> utility isn't that different than typeof. The fact TS doesn't recognize static fields is the real different.
If you wouldn't use : in the demo, only if a function isn't exported it might work and than you wouldn't need any type annotations (this is where Flow shines).

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  • I didn't talk about TS vs Flow. I've gave examples where Flow is better than TS
  • Overtype, wasn't said about comparing to "losing needed type information", was about doing sophisticated types that aren't give any type safety, only use-less meta data
  • I don't say sequelize definitions are over-typed (By the way I guess in TS it would done very differently). I said giving overtype examples for non-real life senecrious isn't good a thing.

The main point, I think Class<T> vs typeof T isn't a good example, because it's misleading and unclear to the point, But showing TS can't handle static properties or "prototype chain" is way more relevant while Flow does it

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Okay, I'm just having trouble understanding why you're against my proposed changes. Would you be in agreement with something like

The TypeScript equivalent of Class<T> is typeof T in cases where T is a value, and new (..._: any) => T in cases where T is a type; however, unlike Class<T>, new (..._: any) => T doesn't capture static class member type information.

I should research whether typeof T captures static class member type information either though (though if it doesn't already, I would expect typeof T to capture static members in the future, whereas I assume new (..._: any) => T will never capture static members.)
Or can you propose how you would describe the differences in typing classes, including typing static members?

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Okay for reference with latest typescript playground:

class Foo {
  static bar: number = 2
}

const Typeof: typeof Foo = Foo
const a: string = Typeof.bar

const New: (new (..._: any) => Foo) = Foo
const b: string = New.bar
const a: string
Type 'number' is not assignable to type 'string'.(2322)

Property 'bar' does not exist on type 'new (..._: any) => Foo'.(2339)

So it's not correct to say that TS can't handle static properties; it certainly does with typeof, it just can't do so on a generic type, and this is a concrete difference from Flow I think it would benefit people to know.

So I think anything we document about differences in class typing must discuss both typeof T and new (..._: any) => T, the differences between each, and the fact that Flow can capture the class static member types even when the T in Class<T> is a type parameter.

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TS don't deal statics as part of prototype object well. typeof SomeClass will work as much as typeof anyInstanceObject. But anyInstanceObject.prototype.constructor.* won't work in TS, Only in Flow.

I didn't say I'm against, I'm not a maintainer of this project and don't decide what goes in or not.

I think it's misleading to present it as "Class<T> vs typeof T". It's not the important part for my opinion and quite misleading. Talking about limitation to extract static properties from TS comparing to Flow is way more important and accurate

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It's very important for people migrating from Flow to TS to learn what to use instead of Class<T>. They need to know that they won't be able to fully replicate Class<T> in some situations.

I get that typeof T is not the only answer, my TS section needs to mention both typeof T and new (..._: any) => T to provide a complete answer. You may only use new (..._: any) => T but it's not necessarily sufficient for everyone's purposes.

This unfortunately doesn't work with type parameters:
```ts
// error: 'T' only refers to a type, but is being used as a value here.(2693)
function newInstance<T>(c: typeof T) {
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But you can:

declare function newInstance<T>(c: new (..._: any) => T): T;

var x = newInstance(class X { y = 1; });
x.y = 2

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niieani commented Nov 21, 2019

Thanks @jedwards1211! Since I don't know enough here, let's wait for @oriSomething to give us a hint of where to go.

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