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List all travel options between two stops in a timetable (no transfers) #6227

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AndersVarmy opened this issue Nov 5, 2024 · 6 comments
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AndersVarmy commented Nov 5, 2024

The need is to add more journey alternatives to the result even if they are slower.

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Skanetrafiken is working on a POC.

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@t2gran t2gran changed the title Add direct travel journeys to OTP response List all travel journeys between to stops in a timetable Nov 7, 2024
@t2gran t2gran changed the title List all travel journeys between to stops in a timetable List all travel options between to stops in a timetable (no transfers) Nov 7, 2024
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t2gran commented Nov 7, 2024

Should this support lines where part of the line has a replacement service?
We can support one transfer, should we do that as an option?

@AndersVarmy AndersVarmy changed the title List all travel options between to stops in a timetable (no transfers) List all travel options between two stops in a timetable (no transfers) Nov 8, 2024
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miklcct commented Nov 8, 2024

Should this support lines where part of the line has a replacement service? We can support one transfer, should we do that as an option?

I am following this. We have just encountered a situation where part of a trip is bustituted, and our software doesn't handle this relation and shows it as separate trips.

GTFS doesn't support this feature and I may need to discuss with our team to see if we want to add this feature and move our investment to NeTEx instead / submit a proposal to the GTFS specification.

I don't think our internal model in OpenTripPlanner supports this concept as well, where multiple physical trips are aggregated together.

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Should this support lines where part of the line has a replacement service? We can support one transfer, should we do that as an option?

I think my answer will be "yes" for both of your questions, but i'm not quite sure if I understand you correctly.
First of all, the reason that we focused on "no transfers" is that it seemed easier. But if we could add journeys with transfers also, that probably is even better.
I'm not sure what you mean with "part of the line has a replacement service"? If there is a journey between two stops I would say it doesn't matter if it is a replacement or original journey.

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Should this support lines where part of the line has a replacement service? We can support one transfer, should we do that as an option?

I am following this. We have just encountered a situation where part of a trip is bustituted, and our software doesn't handle this relation and shows it as separate trips.

GTFS doesn't support this feature and I may need to discuss with our team to see if we want to add this feature and move our investment to NeTEx instead / submit a proposal to the GTFS specification.

I don't think our internal model in OpenTripPlanner supports this concept as well, where multiple physical trips are aggregated together.

"bustituted"? Is that when a train is substituted by buses?

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miklcct commented Nov 11, 2024

"Bustitute" / "bustitution" is a slang for rail replacement buses (substitution by buses).

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