WinUI Community Call: January 22, 2025

[duncanmacmichael]

Please join us for the January 2025 edition of the WinUI Community Call. This event will be live-streamed to YouTube: Link TBD

Details

Date: Jan 22, 2025
Time: 16:00-17:00 UTC (9:00-10:00am Pacific)

Anyone and everyone is welcome - no pre-registration is required.
This will be an informal interactive live stream directly with members of our engineering team.

Format

The community call is a call among the WinUI team that is live-streamed onto YouTube. We present on new updates, share information, welcome guests, and answer your questions.

The WinUI and WindowsAppSDK teams are excited to share an overview of 1.7 experimental, a showcase of Windows Copilot Runtime APIs, and more! We can't wait to share what's coming next and look forward to seeing you all there!

Agenda

• Intro
• 1.7 updates: plans and status
• WCR APIs showcase
• 1.7 features
• XAML debugging tips
• Q&A

Q&A Code of Conduct

• To help ensure Q&A remains beneficial for the majority of the call's developer audience, please consider whether your question could be framed so that it might be more broadly relevant to our larger developer audience by ensuring it is reasonably concise, broadly beneficial, well-suited for the fast-paced live Q&A format, or able to spark open ended discussion.
• Please understand some questions are not well-suited for the fast-paced live Q&A format and should be filed as standalone Q&A discussions where they can be most appropriately handled. Excluding presentation topic requests, this generally includes requests for dedicated follow-ups or technically complex questions that require investigative time or expertise not included in this month's guest list.

Leave us your questions in the comments on this issue or live in the YouTube chat during the stream!

[ghost1372]

Reserved😁

[MEK3DK]

When moving from WPF to WinUI it is important to be able to host WinUI in your WPF program and also host you WPF components in a WinUI program.
In WPF/Forms we had the ElementHost and WindowsFormsHost, but no such convenience classes exists for WinUI.

It is possible to show WinUI above a WPF program using DesktopWindowXamlSource, but since it was added to WinUI in 1.4 it seems that work has stopped in this area?
The samples related to hosting in WinUI are either non-existing or very limited.

Is there any hope that you will put some focus into this area of hosting WPF in WinUI and WinUI in WPF?

[pjmlp]

I no longer care that much about WinUI, but for those that care, maybe address the question why keep talking about WinUI in C++, when these was the output of one year development, a couple of bug fixes, and no improvements on Visual Studio tooling for XAML C++?

https://github.com/microsoft/cppwinrt/commits/master/?since=2024-01-01&until=2024-12-31

[ChaimCL]

The implicit view that can be felt is that MS only expects developers to consume C# but is too shy to state directly that “we no longer recommend the C++ approach to application development”.

[pjmlp]

Meanwhile developer preview 1.7 gets released with C++ projection only....

Go figure.

[knightmeister]

Far out that paints a depressing picture

[whiskhub]

Will you ever reconsider allowing community pull requests for WinUI 3?

Many bugs and issues require only minor changes to fix, but due to the seemingly limited capacity of the WinUI team, they are not being addressed. The community could easily resolve these issues and help improve the unfortunately underwhelming polish of WinUI 3.