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Conan O'Brien needs a fan.
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Wanna talk to Conan?
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Visit teamcoco.com slash call Conan.
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Okay, let's get started.
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Please.
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Yes.
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Hey.
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Hi, Tom, welcome to Conan O'Brien.
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Hello.
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He needs a fan, nice sweater.
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Wow. Thank you.
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Good job.
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First of all, Gourley on just being so positive so quickly.
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Tom, so nice to see you.
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I see you have your-
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You too.
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Your Christmas tree in the background.
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It looks dark where you are.
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We're in Los Angeles, where are you?
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I'm Conan from Dublin, Ireland.
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Oh, you're in Dublin.
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Look at that fine Irish cable knit
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fisherman sweater and Christmas tree.
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I didn't live in the light.
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I just wanna trade places with you.
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I'm sorry, Mr. Gourley is making this sound
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like the home shopping network.
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Tom here is wearing a fine cable net sweater.
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It's gorgeous.
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It's made of a fine Dublin weave.
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Sir, tell us, and Tom, what's your last name?
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Lawler.
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Okay, Tom Lawler, calling from or calling,
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I guess zooming in, calling, whatever you wanna say.
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Appearing to us magically from Dublin.
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I love Dublin.
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I love the few times I've visited there.
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I've had a fantastic time.
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Yeah, you've been a few times.
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I've been a few times.
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One of the times I went, I met up with a bunch of other,
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well, very famous Irish comedians from Ireland
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who were all hilarious, and we all did a show together
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at the Ambassador's residence in Phoenix Park,
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and I thought these are the funniest people I've ever met,
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and then all of us got into a cab
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to go into Dublin to get a drink,
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and the cabbie was funnier than all of us,
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and I thought that's Dublin.
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There's just everyone that's just super high
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professional level funny.
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So no pressure on me then for the rest of this interview.
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Well done.
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Well, we can always say later on that you're,
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you know, you're going through a depressive period,
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you know, and so that gets you off the hook.
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Tom, tell me a little bit about yourself.
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Well, so I live in Dublin, as you know,
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and I right now am the co-director of a festival
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here in Dublin that the city started a number of years ago
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called Bram Stoker Festival,
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which is basically a way of us celebrating
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the life and legacy and work of Bram Stoker,
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who wrote Dracula.
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Yep, and so this is interesting to me
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because I don't have to say, I admit,
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I don't know much about Bram Stoker, obviously.
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His work is very famous,
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but I don't know much about the man himself.
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Was he Irish?
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Yeah, he was Irish, and I think part of that,
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one of the big reasons the festival was started
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was I guess to kind of reclaim him as an Irish author, right?
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So everybody knows Joyce and Beckett as Irish authors,
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but I think a lot of people had kind of assumed
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or thought that Bram Stoker was British,
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and the Brits have a long history of claiming Irish people
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as their own when they become very successful,
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so it was kind of a way of taking it back
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and kind of reclaiming him as a Dublin-born Irish writer, yeah.
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That's actually very, I mean, that's fascinating to me.
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You may have heard me say, I've said it many times,
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because it's kind of fascinating slash sad to me,
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but my people emigrated from Ireland
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in the late 19th century,
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and we've been living in central Massachusetts,
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and I'm still genetically 100% Irish,
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which is I think tragic.
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Tom, will you please reclaim him?
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Yeah.
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Wait.
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And Americans desperately want me to be reclaimed,
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and they mean taken back to Ireland and kept there.
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Well, we'd be delighted to reclaim you
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and have you at the festival anytime, or in Dublin.
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I mean, you're hugely popular.
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I feel like lots of the friends or the fans
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on this podcast are coming from Ireland as well, right?
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You've got to go there.
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No, it's funny, we do have,
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I do get recognition from Irish people for the TV show,
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but also a lot from the podcast, which is very nice.
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So I'd love to go back there,
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and I'd love to reconnect,
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because I think it would be lovely.
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That's a word that I hear a lot.
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Lovely.
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I've heard that in Ireland, they say,
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isn't that lovely?
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Also, they say, correct me if I'm wrong, Tom,
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in America, people say um.
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So if you ask me a question, I say, um, yeah.
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I live near the Volkswagen dealership,
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but about two blocks away.
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The people I've met in Dublin say M, E, M.
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Yeah, Gretan Norton.
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Yeah, have you noticed that?
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Yeah, actually, yeah, it's funny you say that,
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because um.
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M. M.
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It just happened.
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M.
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When I moved to the States for college,
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and I remember that was one of the first things
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people pointed out when I lived there.
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I went to college in Pennsylvania,
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and one of the first things people noticed was,
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why do you say M all the time?
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We don't realize it, but yeah,
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but that's one of the differences we have, I guess.
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When I was in New York, I had a therapist,
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a very brilliant woman who was from Dublin,
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and she used to, I'd tell her about
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whatever was going on in my life, and she'd say,
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M, I think you're crazy.
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You know.
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That was her official diagnosis.
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Her official diagnosis was that my family was shite,
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and that I'm crazy.
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So this is interesting, so you're trying to,
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is there anyone else who we don't know is really Irish,
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or can we start claiming people who aren't Irish,
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but just claim them anyway, you know?
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Like Daniel Craig, let's just start saying,
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did you know he's from Dublin, even though he's not?
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We should start grabbing cool people and saying they're Irish.
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Absolutely, I mean, look, if you've got a list of people
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you want me to start claiming as Irish,
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we can put a festival together about all of them,
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if the need to be, that's fine.
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Yeah, Messi, Messi's from Dublin.
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Lionel Messi's a true son of Ireland,
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and then he was stolen!
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He was stolen and taken away to Argentina.
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We should just, because there are no better liars
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in the world and confabulous than the Irish,
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so we should just start making a list.
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Batman, Batman's from, Uncle Sam!
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Famous, the Irish.
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No one thinks of Uncle Sam anymore.
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What are you talking, no one thought of Uncle Sam
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since like 1911.
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I was trying to think of the most American icon possible.
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No, no, no, I mean like Beyonce,
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did you know that she's from Dublin?
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Did you know that she's from Galway?
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Yeah, it's Beyonce McNoles.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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I'm telling you, I think, Tom,
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I think we're really onto something.
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Sure, Bram Stoker, let's do that,
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but I think you're missing a real opportunity here,
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and I will help you generate the list.
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We're gonna come up with just all of the coolest people.
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And Keanu Reeves.
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Keanu Reeves is from the...
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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He's from the South Country down there.
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He's from Cork.
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I don't know, we could, who's to stop us?
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No one can stop us.
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I mean, there's no one on this side who's gonna stop you.
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I think if you guys have a list, you know,
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put together whatever list and we'll find some,
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I mean, there's so many people that come to Ireland
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and then realize that they've got Irish heritage, right?
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Like Obama was here a few years ago
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and he's got a very strong, like Irish...
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You can't have him.
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I mean, there's so many, you go for it.
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Okay, all right, you guys can keep him then.
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Yeah, we need to keep him.
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I know.
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Wait, can we trade if you're getting Beyonce and stuff?
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No. No?
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Okay.
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We can't trade?
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Can't trade.
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Depending on who you were, sorry,
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depending on who you were gonna say, maybe, yeah.
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It's gonna be all worked out.
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Listen, Tom, you and I are gonna work this out.
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We're gonna start an exchange,
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but we're gonna make lists of people
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that the Irish can claim
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and then I think we should get to have Liam Neeson.
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Yes.
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You know, he's so cool.
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I'm just curious, how many of you would we have to trade
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to get one Liam Neeson?
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You know what, I looked it up, 35 Conans.
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Yes.
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35 Conans gets you Liam Neeson's shoulder.
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Worth it.
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I'll take it.
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Sold.
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You don't think these celebrities would have a problem
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with these festivals?
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Do as they're told.
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Okay.
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I would love for you to say that to Beyonce.
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Well, I'm not gonna say that to Beyonce,
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but boy, I'm gonna say it to Liam Neeson.
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I don't fear him at all.
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Confusion.
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Yeah, he's my height and looks like,
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I talked to him not long ago
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and it was so clear to me the minute he walked in the room,
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like, oh, that's a real man.
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I'm a Lucky Charms leprechaun.
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Anyway, Tom, this sounds like a good endeavor.
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I'm glad that you're working on building up,
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reclaiming what rightfully belongs to Ireland.
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I think that's important.
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Yeah, I mean, we try to, you know,
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there's only so much you can get out of Dracula, right?
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In terms of a festival, like we need new ideas every year
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and we try to present it in different ways.
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So we have a lot of fun with it.
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It's not just all, we don't just, you know,
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we describe it as we're not just like, muahaha.
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Like we try to have a lot of fun with it
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and kind of bring- Although that sounds fun.
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Yeah, that sounds really fun.
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I would go to a muahaha fest.
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Come to muahaha.
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Well, also I'm not aware of what else did Bram Stoker,
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I don't really know, other than, I know him for Dracula,
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but did he write, you know, erotic fiction that I could read?