diff --git a/chia/cmds/start_funcs.py b/chia/cmds/start_funcs.py
index 6340abb0704e..618a7a796482 100644
--- a/chia/cmds/start_funcs.py
+++ b/chia/cmds/start_funcs.py
@@ -33,9 +33,11 @@ def launch_start_daemon(root_path: Path) -> subprocess.Popen:
     print(f"Starting daemon: {cmd_to_execute} run_daemon --wait-for-unlock", flush=True)
     process = subprocess.Popen(
         [cmd_to_execute, "run_daemon", "--wait-for-unlock"],
-        encoding="utf-8",
-        stdout=subprocess.PIPE,
+        stdout=subprocess.DEVNULL,
+        stderr=subprocess.DEVNULL,
+        stdin=subprocess.DEVNULL,
         creationflags=creationflags,
+        start_new_session=True,
     )
 
     return process
@@ -48,13 +50,8 @@ async def create_start_daemon_connection(
     if connection is None:
         print("Starting daemon", flush=True)
         # launch a daemon
-        process = launch_start_daemon(root_path)
-        # give the daemon a chance to start up
-        if process.stdout:
-            process.stdout.readline()
-        await asyncio.sleep(1)
-        # it prints "daemon: listening"
-        connection = await connect_to_daemon_and_validate(root_path, config)
+        launch_start_daemon(root_path)
+        connection = await connect_to_daemon_and_validate(root_path, config, wait_for_start=True)
     if connection:
         if skip_keyring:
             print("Skipping to unlock keyring")
diff --git a/chia/daemon/client.py b/chia/daemon/client.py
index 3a4866ab2f95..9ae1a8e8d9cd 100644
--- a/chia/daemon/client.py
+++ b/chia/daemon/client.py
@@ -36,20 +36,30 @@ def format_request(self, command: str, data: dict[str, Any]) -> WsRpcMessage:
         request = create_payload_dict(command, data, "client", "daemon")
         return request
 
-    async def start(self) -> None:
-        try:
-            self.client_session = aiohttp.ClientSession()
-            self.websocket = await self.client_session.ws_connect(
-                self._uri,
-                autoclose=True,
-                autoping=True,
-                heartbeat=self.heartbeat,
-                ssl=self.ssl_context if self.ssl_context is not None else True,
-                max_msg_size=self.max_message_size,
-            )
-        except Exception:
+    async def start(self, wait_for_start: bool = False) -> None:
+        self.client_session = aiohttp.ClientSession()
+
+        connect_backoff = 2
+        while (self.websocket is None or self.websocket.closed) and connect_backoff <= 60:
+            try:
+                self.websocket = await self.client_session.ws_connect(
+                    self._uri,
+                    autoclose=True,
+                    autoping=True,
+                    heartbeat=self.heartbeat,
+                    ssl=self.ssl_context if self.ssl_context is not None else True,
+                    max_msg_size=self.max_message_size,
+                )
+                break
+            except aiohttp.ClientError:
+                if not wait_for_start:
+                    break
+                await asyncio.sleep(connect_backoff)
+                connect_backoff *= 2
+
+        if self.websocket is None or self.websocket.closed:
             await self.close()
-            raise
+            raise Exception("Failed to connect to daemon")
 
         async def listener_task() -> None:
             try:
@@ -161,7 +171,12 @@ async def get_keys_for_plotting(self, fingerprints: Optional[list[uint32]] = Non
 
 
 async def connect_to_daemon(
-    self_hostname: str, daemon_port: int, max_message_size: int, ssl_context: ssl.SSLContext, heartbeat: int
+    self_hostname: str,
+    daemon_port: int,
+    max_message_size: int,
+    ssl_context: ssl.SSLContext,
+    heartbeat: int,
+    wait_for_start: bool = False,
 ) -> DaemonProxy:
     """
     Connect to the local daemon.
@@ -173,12 +188,13 @@ async def connect_to_daemon(
         max_message_size=max_message_size,
         heartbeat=heartbeat,
     )
-    await client.start()
+
+    await client.start(wait_for_start=wait_for_start)
     return client
 
 
 async def connect_to_daemon_and_validate(
-    root_path: Path, config: dict[str, Any], quiet: bool = False
+    root_path: Path, config: dict[str, Any], quiet: bool = False, wait_for_start: bool = False
 ) -> Optional[DaemonProxy]:
     """
     Connect to the local daemon and do a ping to ensure that something is really
@@ -200,6 +216,7 @@ async def connect_to_daemon_and_validate(
             max_message_size=daemon_max_message_size,
             ssl_context=ssl_context,
             heartbeat=daemon_heartbeat,
+            wait_for_start=wait_for_start,
         )
         r = await connection.ping()
 
diff --git a/chia/daemon/keychain_proxy.py b/chia/daemon/keychain_proxy.py
index 2bbdbc89ded1..b7330c2cc8f5 100644
--- a/chia/daemon/keychain_proxy.py
+++ b/chia/daemon/keychain_proxy.py
@@ -98,7 +98,7 @@ async def _get(self, request: WsRpcMessage) -> WsRpcMessage:
         except asyncio.TimeoutError:
             raise KeychainProxyConnectionTimeout()
 
-    async def start(self) -> None:
+    async def start(self, wait_for_start: bool = False) -> None:
         self.keychain_connection_task = asyncio.create_task(self.connect_to_keychain())
         await self.connection_established.wait()  # wait until connection is established.
 
diff --git a/chia/daemon/server.py b/chia/daemon/server.py
index 36ca9e442986..505a10e5e96e 100644
--- a/chia/daemon/server.py
+++ b/chia/daemon/server.py
@@ -1548,17 +1548,6 @@ async def async_run_daemon(root_path: Path, wait_for_unlock: bool = False) -> in
     ca_crt_path = root_path / config["private_ssl_ca"]["crt"]
     ca_key_path = root_path / config["private_ssl_ca"]["key"]
     sys.stdout.flush()
-    json_msg = dict_to_json_str(
-        {
-            "message": "cert_path",
-            "success": True,
-            "cert": f"{crt_path}",
-            "key": f"{key_path}",
-            "ca_crt": f"{ca_crt_path}",
-        }
-    )
-    sys.stdout.write("\n" + json_msg + "\n")
-    sys.stdout.flush()
     try:
         with Lockfile.create(daemon_launch_lock_path(root_path), timeout=1):
             log.info(f"chia-blockchain version: {chia_short_version()}")